1) Each year, Spain took the Catalans 22 000 million in taxes that go to Spain and NEVER return to Catalonia. That means a tax plundering of 3,000€ per person per year (12,000€ per family of four). With independence and recover this tax plundering of Catalonia can invest for better living and to overcome the crisis.
2) More health, education and aid dependency: independence can increase with 70% of the Government's budget and invest more in education, health and aid dependency.
3) Increase in pension for the elderly: with their own state pension to be increased each year more than 2,500 €. Allocated 6400 million Euros (22,000 million of that each year we take Spain) 15% increase in pensions of widows and retirees.
4) Grants-wage for young people: with independence can create a system-salary grants for youth to excel and can concentrate on their studies and have every opportunity to progress.
5) To create jobs and ensure the future of the companies: only our own State we have first class infrastructure, eliminate the tolls, make our ports are the gateway to Asia to Europe and enjoy 'Catalonia airports and trains that connect with the world.With the end of the fiscal plundering workers enjoy higher wages, companies will pay less taxes and receive more funding for innovation and research.
6) We recover the dignity and promote our values: we are free only if we recover our dignity. No longer have to endure the scorn and insults of Spain and we can enhance our own values: work, effort, saving, initiative, entrepreneurship, innovation.
7) Build quality of a democracy: the new Catalan state can be built on a democratic basis of quality, without corsets and rumors of Franco still linger in the low quality of Spanish democracy. We can organize referendums binding, we elect provincial councils and vegueries through direct vote, approving a bill of information and transparency in public administrations.
8) We can protect the landscape and the environment: the independence to decide what we want energy model and promote renewable energy. While we can protect the landscape and environment of speculation, because the whole territory and sovereignty will be closer to the citizens can exercise greater control over the landscape and natural resources.
9) Could promote the sport and enjoy national teams: the Catalan state can compete internationally with their own sports teams, which will allow us to enjoy and thrill us with our selections. In addition, it allows us to promote the sport and allow many more young Catalan compete internationally.
Spain will not change, everything is centralized in Madrid and take and strengthen the impoverishment of the periphery to get it.
10) Spain has already decided that Madrid is the capital and center of everything and take and strengthen the impoverishment of the periphery to get it: The Spanish national project to Madrid's political and economic capital of the state price to impoverish the periphery is fully consolidated and not reversed. The process of centralization of political and economic power remains in Madrid and Spain and will work conscientiously to expedite it: everything is centralized, and multinational enterprises, infrastructure, rail, intercontinental flights, talent, research, financial institutions... continue to accept that Spain is a country of Catalonia will be second to end poor desindustrialitzat specializing in tourism, hospitality and second homes.
Independence is a secure process: the dangers and uncertainties of independence have disappeared.
11) Spain can not stop today, within the European Union is prohibited resort to the use of force to stop a peaceful process.Spain can no longer resort to the use of force to stop the independence of the Catalan people. The Consultation on Independence has been the best example.
13) Do not lose customers or market because the market is global: the globalization, the Spanish market has lost importance for Catalan companies and trade boycotts can not be put into practice in a global world where everyone buys based on quality / cost. The case of the attempted boycott champagne ended with an increase in exports of champagne worldwide. Today our market is worldwide.
12) Remain in the EU: the prestigious international jurists agree determined that Catalonia, Scotland and Flanders will remain in the EU when it declared independence. We are part of the EU, the Catalans have rights as EU citizens and citizens of other EU have rights guaranteed in Catalonia. The case of Flanders shows us the way: Brussels is the capital of Flanders and the EU and when Flanders an independent state is still part logically from the EU.
The only possible way forward is independence for the autonomy and federalism have failed.
13) The last sentence of CW against the statute has led to other proposals to further Catalonia are not the proclamation of independence (the economic agreement, the federal state or autonomy) are doomed to failure because most absolute needReforming the constitution and agreement of the PSOE and the PP. If PP and PSOE have not allowed a Statute of Autonomy cut as promote a reform of the Constitution to meet the Catalans with more money and power?.
Only proclaimed independence is within our reach because it is the only thing that only depends on us.
14) The ruling of the ICJ by the UN regarding the unilateral proclamation of independence by Kosovo has ruled that the path of unilateral proclamation to access status is lawful and fits perfectly international law. When a country like Spain does not allow the referendum or negotiation, the unilateral proclamation of independence is the way the international community has set.
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Spain is not going to attack Catalonia never, and not because of the EU is because is crazy, because is part of Spain, and because a lot of people of the rest of the parts of Spain are living in Catalonia. Because of the people like you, are stupid people who hate Catalonia because they think all of them are like you. Do not be radical
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Well, Mr Anonymous (August 4, 2011 3:18 AM), what you say is very interesting. What I understand from you is that many Spaniards don't like Catalans if they are Catalans (that is, if they don't think, do and speak as Spaniards, and if they want an state for themeselves through democracy, all of which is legitimate, not radical). That is not very nice of them. And you furthermore say that Spaniards then hate all Catalans because they generalize and think that all Catalans want an independent state for Catalonia (which, I repeat, is perfectly legitimate).
So you say that many Spaniards have prejudices against Catalans. Interesting point, thank you.
It is also very interesting that the reasons why, in you opinion, would prevent Spain from attaking Catalonia, didn't prevent it in the past.
May I remind you of the Spanish Civil War? Oh, you will argue that that war was in all Spain. Right, but that already breaks your argument of Spain not attacking Catalonia because is the same country.
Or may I remind you about 1934, when Catalan President Lluís Companys proclaimed the Catalan Republic and the Spanish army attacked and then imprisioned our democraticaly elected government.
Or may I remind you how, more recently, some high-rank generals in the Spanish army where planning to attack Catalonia because they didn't like the new Catalan Statute of Autonomy because it said that Catalonia is a nation (not to worry, since Spain has managed to render most of the referendum-approved Statute ilegal)?
Or may I remind when we lost our independence in 1714 by military conquest?
Or may I remind the occupation in 1640?
Or may I...?
I wonder who is the radical here, since Catalans only ask for a referendum. They only ask for Catalans to decide about their own future. Democratically. Just as the Charter of the United Nations says, that is a right of all the peoples and nations in the world.
So, as you say, Spaniards won't allow that, and they hate Catalans for thinking like this.
I wonder who is the radical here.
It is just a question of time for the people of Catalonia to understand how bad is for them to remain part of the Spanish State.You are talking about a civilisized nation and very respectful of others(Spaniars included) and I am 100% sure that by democratic means the future Catalan State will be consolidated in a few years despite the opposition of Spain.
I think that in Catalonia is all centralized also. And is amazing hear that Catalonia is the only part of Spain where people works, and all is good.
I think that investment in Barcelona had been big during last years, we can remember BCN 92, forum, the city changed in last ten years, and a big amount of money came from Madrid. Why Huesca, Burgos, Caceres hasn't got industries like catalonia? Everybody knows that Seat receive a lot of money from Madrid also.....
Thanks.
Eduardo, do you have anything to support that the money for all these things came from Madrid? It sure was partly paid by the Spanish State, but do you remember where does the State get its money from? From people. Catalonia (a country that would be one of the richest of Europe, according to studies and t Economy Nobel Awarded and heads of the FMI) produces enough rsources to invest in infrastuctures and in the 1992 Olympics. The money to pay that came from us.
The problem is that we don't have control over that money and that we give much more money than that, and an ammount yearly equivalent to the Marshall plan that saved Europe never comes back to us in any way.
It is interesting that you mention the Olympics, because it is now well known that Spain secretly forced Catalonia to choose between basic infrastuctures and the Olympics.
Other places in Spain don't have factories? Well, yeah, but how is that Catalans' fault? Catalan businessmen invested in that when Spain had a completely different model, and in fact Catalonia declared independence almost 100 years ago because Spain didn't bother to help Catalonia in any way in its model, nor wanted to upgrade the rest of Spain (which would make the interests of Catalonia the same as the Spanish).
You know, people work everywhere, in all countries, but not all countries are equally rich. Well, it's simple maths: Catalonia would be one of the richest countries if it could just control it's money, and yet, being in Spain, it has the highest poverty rate in Spain.
Why do Catalans have to be in situations worse than those who get money from them?